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Russia and Assad Are Winning — How Will the Empire Strike Back?

A suicide bombing has killed or wounded scores of people in Ankara, the capitol of Turkey. Saturday’s blast happened at a leftist protest against Erdoğan’s hard line versus the Kurds. Qui bono? Could this be blowback from Turkey’s not so secret support of ISIS, a Deep State false flag, or a warning? Perhaps from Ankara’s ‘partners’ not to switch sides and join the Eurasian axis or at least become neutral towards Assad in the Syria conflict?

Download the October 9, 2015 broadcast of V the Guerrilla Economist with the Russia Analyst

The Germany-based Moon of Alabama blog has these thoughts on the Ankara terrorist attack:

Two suicide bombers blew themselves up today at a rally of the Kurd friendly HDP party in Ankara. Some 90 people were killed and some 200 wounded. This is the biggest terrorist attack modern Turkey has ever seen. The Turkish government disconnected the country from Twitter and forbid any reporting about the terror attack. [one day after arresting a journalist just minutes after he criticized President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on air — so much for NATO membership = democracy and freedumb – JWS]

The HDP party is leftist and supports a peaceful struggle for Kurdish autonomy. The militant Kurdish PKK in Turkey is currently fighting skirmishes with Turkish security forces in the east of the country. It has now announced that it will stop all attacks unless when it is attacked first. The sister organization of the PKK in Syria, the YPK, is currently fighting against the Islamic State. Erdogan’s AK-Party and his government have supported the Islamic State and al-Qaeda in Syria. It sees the HDP party and the Kurds in general as its enemies. As one Turkish non-AKP politician said today, the bloody incident in Ankara was either a total Turkish intelligence failure or a Turkish intelligence operation.

Whatever else it was, the bombing, very likely by Islamic State suicide bombers, is a sign of an ongoing destabilization of Turkey. The instability will increase further until there is a major policy change and a complete crackdown on any support for the Jihadis in Syria as well as a complete closure of the Turkish-Syrian border.

Turkey is a Black Box Right Now — Those in the Know Don’t Talk and Those Who Don’t Know Talk

The Russia Analyst, not being a specialist on Turkey or speaking the language cannot answer any of these questions. Probably the best source in the alternative media for what’s going on inside Turkey is Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who blew the whistle on Turkish, Pakistani, Saudi and Qatari intelligence services buying influence in Washington and Langley’s pre and post-9/11 support for jihadists fighting the Russians in the Caucasus. Phillip Girardi, a former high ranking CIA officer who now serves on the Council for the National Interest, affiliated with the Nixon Center (think Henry Kissinger’s) think tank, has spoken highly of Edmonds’ work and pointed out the few brave voices in Congress who demanded investigations into the foreign power/globalist subversion.

Unfortunately for us, Turkish politics remains even more opaque than Russian policy making, which thanks to sites like Ft. Russ or Russian deep state-rs like Lt. Gen. Leonid Reshetnikov speaking out is suddenly not so mysterious. One hardly needs to be a ‘Kremlinologist’ to see the overall direction of Russian policy towards China and the New Silk Road/Eurasian Economic Union, with the EEU/EU merger after the final dollar collapse as a distant but tantalizing goal.

Next week, regardless of WHO actually blew up the anti-Erdoğan government demonstration, is that Russia will declare its condolences for the victims and issue a statement about how the attack shows all nations should join Russia’s fight against the Islamic State. Yes, even if the attack actually was not carried out by ISIS — though we can hardly exclude the possibility. Some Islamic State fighters after all must be feeling slightly betrayed after imagining that the Turkish Air Force and the ludicrous rules of engagement the Obama Administration has saddled the U.S. military with to coddle ISIS would protect their budding Caliphate. The problem with arming and funding proxies, as the Pakistani intelligence service ISI has discovered, is that they don’t always STAY bought, and can occasionally turn on their master like a bad dog. See Israel’s involvement in the early days of Hamas as an Islamist counterweight to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) back in the 1980s for another Mideast example. The enemy of your enemy is sometimes…still an enemy, rather than a friend!

Would Turkey destroy all this trade to make Washington happy in a bid to create a second Afghanistan for the Russians in Syria? Not bloody likely.
Would Turkey destroy all this trade to make Washington happy in a bid to create a second Afghanistan for the Russians in Syria? Not bloody likely.

Turkey is Likely to Stay on the Fence in Cold War 2.0 — and Won’t Fall on its Scimitar for Washington’s Proxy War with Russia

As we mentioned during the first hour of the Friday night Guerrilla Radio show (available for download here, and soon to be posted by the Guerrilla on the main page), the Russia Analyst is highly skeptical that Turkey will risk a direct military clash with Russia. Yes, even as the Russians bomb the hell out of jihadist groups whether the so-called ‘Army of Conquest’ Jaesh al-Fatah or ISIS itself that have been armed with either active Turkish intelligence agency support or connivance. And yes, even if the Russians start blowing up the ISIS/Jubhat al-Nusra oil smuggling routes into Turkey.

The Russian violations of Turkish air space acknowledged and apologized for by Moscow only lasted a few seconds — hardly the stuff of WWIII even with NATO trying to make hay out of this ‘aggression’. The painting of Turkish Air Force F-16s by hostile radars appears to be the work of the Syrians (the SAF flies MiGs, Ivan is flying Sukhois), though we cannot exclude the possibility that a Russian trainer was piloting the Syrian Air Force MiG-29 that locked on to the Turkish ‘Vipers’. Nor can we discount the possibility that a joint Syrian-Russian S-300 crew gave the Turkish pilots the screeching ECM signal of locked on death — just as we said they would in early September.

As we told the Guerrilla this weekend, why should the Turks after tolerating four years of Russian arms floating through the Bosporus Strait past Istanbul suddenly risk a trade embargo from Russia’s side to do Washington any favors? Especially for the same Obama Administration that just officially announced it’s throwing in the towel on the Pentagon’s program of training Syrian rebels to fight both Assad and the Islamic State? Why would even a cocky Turkish government…one NOT facing a severe economic slowdown, Deep State discontent and a looming Kurdish insurgency NUKE Ankara’s trade ties and Eurasian Silk Road prospects to satisfy the ‘let’s kill Russians’ fantasies of the neocon losers?

Retired Army Gen. Jack Keane is furious that Putin’s proxies in the Syrian Arab Army, including these unveiled and brave women fighting alongside the SAA, are beating the crap out of America’s bearded jihadi proxy ‘allies’

25 billion cubic meters of reasons why Turkey won't violate the Montreux Conventions of 1936 and try to block Russia from sending supplies to Syria via the Bosporus Strait
25 billion cubic meters of reasons why Turkey won’t violate the Montreux Conventions of 1936 and try to block Russia from sending supplies to Syria via the Bosporus Strait

During the Friday night program we mentioned that a very large percentage of Turkey’s natural gas supplies, probably nearly half, come from Russia. We also talked about the billions of dollars annually in tourism and agri-sales turnover Turkey has with Russia. Just days before the most recent bluster from Ankara about Russia choosing the wrong course in supporting Assad with air strikes, the two governments had boasted that Russo-Turkish annual trade would top $100 billion by 2023. State-funded media RT has downplayed Russian-Turkish tensions, quoting Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu as saying:

“Our position is very clear, we’ll warn any country that violates our borders in a friendly way. Russia is our friend and neighbor. There is no tension between Turkey and Russia in this sense. The issue of Syria is not a Turkish-Russian crisis,”

Once again it appears there is no appetite either in Moscow or Ankara for direct confrontation. This weekend’s terrorist bombing of the Ankara demonstration is unlikely to change that, and if it was a ‘Deep State’ false flag op it very well could have been designed to not only embarrass Erdoğan, but actually BOLSTER Russia’s anti-ISIS Narrative with the Turkish public. Why? Because the single greatest point of blackmail leverage the Western globalists have ‘on’ Erdoğan also happens to be his biggest political liability in Turkey. Even most Turkish Islamists do not like Daesh, per the Guerrilla’s report that both Sunni and Shi’a Islamic scholars came together over a year ago in Tunisia (or was it Morocco?) to denounce the organization as un-Islamic.

As we mentioned in our article “Grandmaster Disaster: The Only Way the Turk Wins the Chessmatch is Not to Play the Empire’s Strange Game” Erdoğan has gone from presiding over a period of prosperity for Turkey and improving relations with the Kurds to economic contraction, a Turkish lira crisis, and the bursting of an Arab Persian Gulf investor-fueled housing bubble. With the Saudis tightening their belts and settling in for a period of low oil prices thanks to new Iranian crude supply coming on the market, can Riyadh really afford to keep helping Erdoğan out with investment and favorable loans on Islamic banking (meaning officially no interest) terms? We don’t think so (ditto for fighting proxywars not only with Iran in Yemen but also going up against Russia semi-directly in Syria — see below).

China's FD-2000 / HQ-9 SAM system, which Turkey cancelled an order for under heavy pressure from Washington not to buy weapons from outside of NATO (Photo by
China’s FD-2000 / HQ-9 SAM system, which Turkey cancelled an order for under heavy pressure from Washington not to buy weapons from outside of NATO (Photo by

Adding to this Turkish malaise is likely a perception among Turkey’s security agencies and top brass that Ankara has been too dependent on the United States and NATO for far too long — witness the Turkish purchase of a surface to air missile system and other equipment from China, usually a big no-no if you’re a Washington vassal (see the Land Destroyer report for stories about Washington’s covert and G-NGO campaign against the Thai governments that have drawn closer to Beijing). The Turkish public is also becoming more aware of how much resentment must be building in Europe against the massive influx of Muslim migrants they’ve set off this summer — and that Ankara’s prospects of European Union membership are now more distant than ever. With more Europeans particularly Eastern Europeans who are supposedly NATO’s bulwark against Russia saying, “We don’t want any Muslim migrants” the Turkish majority may see Russia with its large Muslim population as comparatively more friendly.

Again while we cannot untangle the intricacies of Turkish politics, we have to guess that at least some military members and several million secular Turks resent Erdoğan’s neo-Ottoman brand of Islamism and will soon sense an opportunity to push him out, most likely after a poor showing for his Law and Justice (AKP) party in this November’s elections. While our friend Jim Willie the Golden Jackass has declared that the Turks are up to their eyeballs in narco money and Afghan heroin flow into Europe, he’s also observed during recent talk show appearances that some Turkish spooks and colonels can take NATO narco-bribes while still doing business with Moscow and Beijing. Being two faced and the middle man between East and West is the Turkish way, after all. Another Anatolian tradition, in case Erdoğan does something very stupid and orders his pilots to shoot at the Russian jets, is the military coup.

If the Neocons Can’t Exploit Turkey to Fight Russia in Syria, What about Israel?

Vladimir Putin shaking hands with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. Despite the vitriol of neocon 'friends of Israel' towards the Russian leader, in Israel itself there is a quiet respect for Vladimir Vladimirovich -- with some Russian-speaking Chabad Jews openly praising Putin.
Vladimir Putin shaking hands with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. Despite the vitriol of neocon ‘friends of Israel’ towards the Russian leader, in Israel itself there is a quiet respect for Vladimir Vladimirovich — with some Russian-speaking Chabad Jews openly praising Putin.

With Turkey unlikely to fight and reluctant to ‘up’ its arms and jihadi flows into northern Syria, what with the Syrian Arab Army advancing towards the border and Russian air strikes incinerating the deliverables, what’s a humiliated neocon Russophobe left to do?

Israel is clearly sitting this one out now that Netanyahu has met with Putin and the two have come to some sort of understanding. Russian arms should stay with the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and will not go to Hezbollah, and in return there will be no more Israeli air strikes on Syrian soil while the Russians are controlling the skies. The Al-Nusra fighters who’ve pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda Israel has been supporting along the Golan Heights will be quietly flushed as an embarassment to the Mossad’s ‘war on terror’, but again the IDF probably demanded that the SAA and not Hezbollah take them out otherwise they’ll start shooting across the line of demarcation.

Behind this ‘truce’ between Moscow and Tel Aviv, who were never enemies in the formal sense but rather ‘frenemies’ like the Russians and Turks, is the question of Mediterranean gas. As we told the Guerrilla Friday night, with no Qatari pipeline to Turkey and Europe via a post-Assad Syria, the Israelis have to make alternative arrangements to get their natural gas north. Liquefying and floating the gas across the Med will cost Israeli and foreign investors billions of dollars, with the eternal headache of security for the floating refrigerated hydrocarbons and LNG terminal. At any rate, Israel does not have a sufficient amount of beach front real estate far enough from the threat of either Hamas rockets launched from Gaza or Hezbollah missiles raining down from Lebanon to justify an LNG terminal’s existence.

Enter Russia, which speaks the language of between 1 out of 8 and 1 out of 7 Israelis. Not only can Moscow help the Israelis sort out their competing natural gas claims with the Russians clients in Damascus and the Lebanese, but the Russians together with the Chinese can invest into a connector pipeline running under the Med from the Leviathian gas field to Cyprus, and thence to the Greek mainland to join the Turkstream project. Having Egyptian gas already flowing into Israel also funneled into this joint project can create a strong incentive for future Egyptian governments to stay peaceful towards Israel. Joint gas field development can also cement Greek-Israeli ties even if Golden Dawn gains popularity in the impoverished Hellenic Republic as a force that doesn’t like the Jewish State or those who claim to speak for Zionist interests abroad all that much.

In this way, a Russian-Chinese new order in the Mideast can replace the chaos the Empire has sown all around Israel, which the neocons sold under the auspices of the so-called Oded Yinon Plan (also known under its Project for a New American Century pre-9/11 label of ‘a clean break’).

Empty threats from ‘Free Syrian Army’ (FSA) losers who said Assad would be gone two years ago…

Who’s Left to Fight Russia to the Last Jihadi Then? Saudi Arabia and Qatar?

With neither Turkey nor Israel willing to risk their own spooks, pilots, or military advisers under Russian bombs alongside the jihadis, who’s left to carry out U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter’s threat to inflict casualties on the Russians?

During the 1980s the Central Intelligence Agency relied primarily on three Muslim allied states to carry out the bulk of the training and arming of the anti-Soviet mujaheddin in Afghanistan: Pakistan with its ISI under Gen. Hamid Gul (20 November 1936 – 15 August 2015) frontline contacts among the Pashtuns, Egypt with its large arsenal of Soviet and Chinese delivered weapons for ‘plausible deniability’, and of course Saudi Arabia to provide the religious and financial backing for the global Sunni jihad against the Soviets. The basic problem with repeating this formula — besides the fact that Syria is not Afghanistan especially in terms of terrain and the Syrian Arab Army is not the weak Soviet-backed Afghan National Army? Or that the jihadists the West would be backing this time have either surrendered weapons to ISIS, cooperated with them, or actually are part of the Islamic State, presenting Washington with a PR nightmare should ISIS shoot down an airliner using an American Stinger missile?

So much for the State Dept. and neocon lies spread by the MSM ‘Russia isn’t bombing ISIS’ or only hitting ‘moderates’

For starters, Egypt is firmly on Moscow’s side this time. General turned President Sisi knows all too well about the Obama Administration’s not so covert support of the Muslim Brotherhood and that the Salafists trying to topple Assad would wage jihad against his secular, Copts-protecting junta in a heartbeat. The stupidity of the Obama Administration in backing the Muslim Brotherhood, the decades-old enemy of the Egyptian military, and of the Saudi Royal family has made any mustering of the same forces in a wholehearted campaign against the Russians a non-starter. In fact, we could very well see some Egyptian soldiers or at least ‘vacationers’ and mercenaries fighting for Assad once it’s clear the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has the foreign backed jihadists on the run. But first Egypt will likely need to find some way to make peace with the Houthis and Yemeni tribesmen fighting against the ill-conceived, bogged down Saudi invasion of Yemen. Moscow is of course, willing to help Cairo and Tehran mend fences.

How about the Saudis? We mentioned in the Friday night Guerrilla Radio broadcast that there are rumors of a palace coup in Riyadh. The old king Salman bin AbdulAziz is basically a monarch in name only, supposedly propped up by doctors and barely able to function after the death of his predecessor King Abdullah bin AbdulAziz.  The Economist, UK Guardian and other mainstream media are suddenly reporting that the war in Yemen is dragging on and the Kingdom is being forced to make budget cuts, acknowledging that its petrodollar reserves are huge but not limitless. The true extent of the combat losses for the Saudis and their Persian Gulf allies who went in to restore a Saudi puppet government are probably being concealed, though perhaps not on the scale of the Ukrainians hiding thousands of their KIA. So neither Saudi financial nor cannon fodder resources are unlimited.

Iranian government channel Press TV reports on the successful Syrian Arab Army/National Defense Forces offensive

Pro-Syrian rebel social media brag about how the Saudis are sending more TOW missiles to their proxies to use against Assad’s army, while acting as if the TOWs are wunderwaffen that can stop massed Russian-provided firepower and air strikes. They’re wrong.

This is apparently what a TOS-1A in action, the type of ‘area weapon’ thermobaric rocket launcher we mentioned on the Friday night Guerrilla Radio program, looks like when it’s setting an area of several football fields in size on fire — leaving behind charred fragments on the enemy

Much like Hitler’s panzerfausts and panzerschrecks in the hands of old men and Hitler Youth could slow, but not stop cold the advances of the Soviet Red Army from 1943-45, the jihadis are likely to find their best TOW gunners buried under Russian artillery, rocket and air strikes. Or overrun by rapid Syrian armored advances once the jihadis start running low on ammunition with so many ammo dumps blown up by Russian and Syrian strikes. The Achilles heel of the jihadists, their lack of a unitary command, their compromised battlefield comms, and the likelihood Russia can keep bombing their supply lines coming in from Turkey, Jordan or Iraq means the Syrian Arab Army has the initiative on the battlefield.

The jihadis are on the defensive, and their ability to mass any sort of firepower beyond small squads carrying TOWs, mortars or RPGs on the ubiquitous Toyota Hillux pickups is extremely limited. TOW gunners, many of them unaccustomed to being under continuous drone surveillance or facing Russian advisers on the front lines, can be quickly spotted or give away their positions for arty or Hind strikes due to careless use of unencrypted radios. Given these facts, it’s no wonder some former ‘FSA’ fighters have announced they’re ready to enter into ceasefire negotiations with Assad:

Note the Russian Army style green kevlar helmets and flak jackets newly issued to Syrian Arab Army soldiers

FSA tanks and artillery quickly find themselves being destroyed by Syrian/Russian Hind gunships, while every attempt to mass any sort of counterattack must occur under the lidless, 24/7 eyes of Russian drones flying far above altitudes where the FSA can shoot them down. Ditto for the notion that Stinger missiles or other MANPADs will help the Syrian jihadists shoot down more than a few Hinds, the helicopters are on the deck issuing flares almost as fast as the jihadis spot them, while the Russian jets are bombing from higher altitudes with Glonass (GPS) or laser guided precision. While the Mi-24P Hinds are vulnerable machines if conducting operations without friendly troops nearby, they remain devastating as part of a combined arms offensive. This is the difference between the FSA and jihadists fighting against an SAA worn out by years of fighting with only Hezbollah and a few Iranian advisers’ help versus a joint Russian-Syrian-Iranian command and control system that dominates Syria’s air space.

More of CIA’s investment in toppling Assad going up in smoke: ‘moderate’ jihadists chant Allahu Akbar as Russian/Syrian Arab Army GRAD or possibly SMERCH MLRS annihilate some of their ‘brothers’ outside the city of Hama, as the SAA advances Soviets in WWII style with heavy firepower

While the pro-‘FSA’ and Kiev trolls suddenly cheering for Al-Qaeda in Syria who think the Saudis and Qataris, who are too cowardly to fight themselves, will ride to the rescue of Washington’s defeat in Syria, the younger Saudi princes know better. The Qataris seem to be a whole lot better at setting up ‘think tanks’ that are really covers for Foreign Alien Registration Act (FARA) violating unregistered lobbying by @Charles_Lister and other Brooking Doha shills, than they are at actual fighting. Qatar’s main contribution to the Syrian rebel cause appears to be PR, not weapons or advisers. But apparently there are some in the U.S. Deep State or a few patriots left in the U.S government not comfortable with Doha buying United States policy in Syria wholesale:

America arming Syria’s Al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra and Qatari shill Charles Lister attempting to deny it to an RT embedded at Latakia

This is why we saw the meetings between Putin and the younger Mohammed bin Salman al Saud on the sidelines of the MAKS air show in late August, as the first rumors of a Russian military buildup at Latakia reached the Kingdom. It’s why we’re seeing negotiations Sunday, again between bin Salman al Saud and Putin. The NSA will most certainly want to be a fly a on the wall for that meeting but will have to tap the Prince’s communications afterwards to find out what was said from the Saudi perspective.

Representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry, in their evaluation of the actions of the US military and the various operations they are engaged worldwide, have never sunk down to the level to publicly express the hope for the death of US servicemen or, even less so, of ordinary Americans.

Today’s announcement Pentagon chief Ashton Carter, unfortunately clearly illustrates the current level of political culture of some representatives of the US government or, should I say, their level of cynicism towards the rest of the world. I am sure that no US general would ever have allowed himself to express such feelings.
– Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov , spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, October 8, 2015  
(Source: )

From “Week One of the Russian Military Intervention in Syria” by The Saker, Unz Review, October 10, 2015

21 thoughts on “Russia and Assad Are Winning — How Will the Empire Strike Back? Leave a comment

  1. Hi James,
    “W” mentioned ages ago that the US dollar would be undermined by the end of 2015. Russian military involvement and apparent success in this Syrian conflict has made the US appear weak and impotent? Is this Syrian crisis combined with a loss of credibility of the Federal Reserve after refusing to raise interest rates recently being used by TPTB in some way to deliberately undermine the US dollar?


    • 59LesPaul — It was V who said the dollar would be completely undermined by the end of 2015, citing a general who was leaving the country with his family. But to answer your question: it appears that just when the turmoil in the financial markets slowed down, the geopolitical earthquakes resumed in late September with Putin’s UN speech and subsequent Russian offensive in support of Assad. This is no accident. The two trends are clearly interacting in tandem. If the situation in Syria begins to calm down by spring with peace talks after a lot of hard winter fighting, watch for some market unrest in early 2016. Oil is going to remain volatile — especially with direct Iranian and possibly some Iraqi intervention in Syria which the Saker sees as the next logical step, to sweep in from the northeast and roll over ISIS and the oil fields if a deal can be cut with the Syrian/Iraqi Kurds (which in turn puts enormous pressure on the Turks to make peace and stop arming and funding the cross border terrorist flows).
      I’ve been surprised at the short runup and wonder if that was part of the talks between Putin and Mohamed bin Salman al Saud, who may very well be the heir apparent to the throne and seems much more willing to talk with Moscow than the old fart hardliners. I also wonder if bin Salman’s first or second cousin was the one who got carjacked in Paris for getting too close to the Russians?
      The Fed/Plunge Protection Team will try as usual to keep a lid on things through Christmas and New Year’s.
      Cheers, JWS


  2. Interesting analysis and comment. At this point though its more of the same until Islamic State/Daesh is defeated or routed in Syria.
    Jim Stone speculated the reason why the US officials are fuming over Russia is because they know Russia is directly targeting CIA personnel at their stations. Russia knows that Daesh, like insurgents/terrorists/mujahideen are like vapor, they hide among civilians and civilian infrastructure and will use civilians as human shields in an attempt to turn public opinion against Russia. Pursuing them directly may lead to another Afghanistan.
    So Russia is going straight for the source of the problem, knowing the US government will have to keep quiet and take it like a bitch to pretend they are fighting against the terrorists when indeed Washington DC = CIA = Daesh.
    It is speculated that when we first heard of cruise missile launches from the Caspian Sea these were being sent straight for known locations of CIA agents, as they have much less forewarning than incoming aircraft.
    Next fork in the road would be if Russia extends the battle zone to Daesh occupied territories in Iraq with the local Shi’ite government’s blessing, in an Iraqi 2016 ‘spring’ offensive after cleaning up Syria, in order to keep their hard-won momentum going to neutralize western backed jihadists from the Middle East, being run by Chechnya militants that could return to plague Russia.


    • SOF – thanks for the links to Jim Stone. I read his speculation that actual CIA personnel and not just their assets got hit by the cruise missile strikes for which even CENTCOM would be able to provide only a few minutes warning of missiles spotted a few hundred feet smoking in low over northern Iraq/Kurdistan if at all.

      I am not sure the U.S. radar coverage of that area is total or if DoD only had warning of launch from satellites monitoring the Caspian Sea/southern Russia region but didn’t know where the Kalibr (Russia’s cheaper and better version of Raytheon’s Tomahawk hence all the pissing on their performance) missiles were headed initially, which must’ve caused some panic for a minute before they turned southeast (and away from southeastern Ukraine and a possible strike obliterating a lot of the Azov battalion in Mariupol or other Ukrainian ops centers where NATO advisers or mercs have been present).
      Mere humiliation does not seem sufficient to explain SecDef Ash Carter’s rage. NATO was humiliated when it could do nothing about Crimea either. So I think there may be some substance to Jim Stone’s speculation. I’ve said many times here at RM if we suddenly hear about a ‘Taliban suicide bombing’ taking out several CIA personnel in Afghanistan that nobody witnessed, that’s a likely cover story for their deaths in either Donbass alongside the Ukrainian battalions or in Syria.
      It still seems to me that there are two CIAs — the bureaucratic CYA type that most directors personify, and the paramilitary/dark side engaged structure that has grown up again since 9/11 though they never truly went away under Bill Clinton (KLA narco and organ trafficking gangsters anyone?). As I outlined in this piece, the proxy states upon which any covert CIA war against the Russian presence in Syria would rely are all experiencing problems right now, with the possible exception of Qatar (though demand for their LNG is plunging thanks to a gas glut in the U.S. and Australia/SE Asia too). Turkey is perhaps the most potentially destabilized with the likelihood of a coup attempt in favor of the Eurasian/New Silk Road faction should it exist in the Turkish military/security services, or a general Kurdish uprising that costs thousands of casualties to put down. The Saudis are also hemorrhaging cash with the lower oil price and bleeding men and prestige in Yemen. The younger princes already see the writing on the wall, it’s just a matter of being able to turn and not get assassinated while on their yachts somewhere with a blonde under each arm…


      • I am glad you found Jim Stone’s speculation to be useful to your analysis.
        Time will tell if the CIA will morph into something else or dissipate with the financial reset. If anything this terrorist organization together with its apparent parent company the Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) has been the single greatest cause of misery on the planet.
        Its likely this organization answers directly to the Cabal of Rothschilds and Rockefellers and other members of the Khazarian mafia. Therefore its fate is tied to the survival of these descendants of the Khazarian empire. Historical evidence appear to show the Khazarian empire were known for their advanced spy networks as far back as the the seventh century AD, if that Veterans Today article on the ‘Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia’ has gotten its research right.
        The article is updated occasionally to add newer information:
        Iraq when it invites Russia in to defeat the Daesh will be a highly symbolic move and a symbolic end to the already crumbling dreams of the PNAC lunatics.
        Syria, Iraq and Iran would form a beltway connecting the Mediterranean to the Caspian Sea, either for oil pipelines or one of the branch transport connections of the New Silk Road.
        Good job to Washington DC spending trillions of dollars and millions of lives on Iraq just to make it an ally of Russia. The armies of disabled US army veterans who have been abandoned by the VA must be feeling really good about all this, just as they felt when the Daesh undid their work in northern Iraq when the terrorists were gaining ground at rapid pace.


      • SOF — I can’t address the somehwat dubious (ok at least they’re slightly better than Debka) reliability of Veterans Today as a source or speculations about the Khazarians who and what they are and where they came from (very controversial subject of medieval history and I only know a little bit about the Khazars trade/warfare with the Byzantine or surviving Constantinople-based Roman Empire).

        Iraq when it invites Russia in to defeat the Daesh will be a highly symbolic move and a symbolic end to the already crumbling dreams of the PNAC lunatics.
        Syria, Iraq and Iran would form a beltway connecting the Mediterranean to the Caspian Sea, either for oil pipelines or one of the branch transport connections of the New Silk Road.
        Good job to Washington DC spending trillions of dollars and millions of lives on Iraq just to make it an ally of Russia. The armies of disabled US army veterans who have been abandoned by the VA must be feeling really good about all this, just as they felt when the Daesh undid their work in northern Iraq when the terrorists were gaining ground at rapid pace.

        I agree with you that Iraq’s entry into the war officially allied with Assad and cutting a deal with the Kurds to hit ISIS in a big triple-pincer move will be the real game changer — and together with Russian air strikes from Iraqi bases a humiliation for Dubya, Cheney and all the Iraq War’s promoters and Team Neocon.
        I also mentioned the possibility of railways being constructed by the Chinese from the Caspian to the Med once ISIS and the Turkish/Saudi backed Salafists are removed as an obstacle, though such a project will probably not get financing until there’s a peace settlement/de facto partition of Syria.
        Globalists like ZBig who imagine they can cut off the logistics for the Russians in Syria tend to forget that during WWII the U.S. and Britain shipped a huge amount of supplies into the Soviet Union including trucks, locomotives and ammo via Iraq’s port of Basra and Iran’s Persian Gulf ports and thence to the Caspian and Astrakhan region. In fact the Western Lend Lease shipped far more supplies to the Soviets via Iran than they were able to get through Murmansk via the heroic Arctic convoys. The Russians could very well reverse that flow in terms of shipping more hardware through Iran and northern Iraq/Kurdistan (there’s a decent highway through Irbil that’s secured by the Kurdish peshmerga)to bypass Turkey. That is, in the extremely unlikely event the Turks suddenly close the Bosporus to Russian shipping if ZBig and co threaten them — though the Turks tend not to respond well to being bullied as Moscow is aware, that’s why Russia prefers to bribe them with Turkstream and other inducements rather than use the language of threats. Plus, as I said on the program overland is much harder and slower than the Black Sea to Tartus Express, and transport of fuel and bombs would be the biggest problems.
        What is clear from the Russian-Saudi negotiations is that Riyadh bent more to Moscow’s position than vice versa, suddenly the Saudis have conceded to reality that Assad isn’t going anywhere for a while though they are touting it as a constitutional transition to save face. What other negotiations are going on besides these acknowledged subjects — say about Russia and the Kingdom trying to ‘stabilize’ the oil price a bit higher with OPEC, delaying some of the Iranian crude coming online, whatnot is an interesting topic. As I wrote the younger princes realize that the Saudis Sunni Salafist proxies will not last long against Russian airpower and firepower, maybe only a few months before they start losing control over not only Hama and Idlib, but also Aleppo and thence with a Kurdish offensive from the east the vital Euphrates supply lines to these jihadi bastards gets cut. Cutting them off from Israel and Jordan south of Damascus is going to be tougher and trickier in terms of Putin negotiating with Bibi to remove Israeli support for these jihadis.
        Don’t know if you saw the widely retweeted story about the Iraqis complaining they found another paradropped gift wrapped set of supplies for ISIS courtesy of Uncle Sam this past week.


      • I never agree fully 100% of any source, whether its Veterans Today, Jim Stone or Roguemoney. If anything our experience with mainstream media would have taught us to be skeptical and suspicious of anything coming out of any news source. I consider this article worth a read since this connects some of the dots.As someone posted in the comments under one of Wolf Gray’s articles a link warning us against rushing to the Russian President as our saviour simply because he said the things we wanted to hear.
        It also dovetails with what I have been saying as long as we believe in the need to have an institution of violence, and slavery through taxation called ‘Government’, we will continue to see the same cycle of progress and collapse of civilisations.
        Looking back at history, Baghdad was a thriving metropolis during the worst of the European Dark Ages up to its sacking by the Mongols in the 1200’s. It was one of the major cities of ‘Asia Minor’, so it had some use as a trading centre for overland access on the way to Turkey and Europe.
        Yeah I did see that twitter video.


  3. James,Getting back to my earlier post, I want to clarify and say that even though there is general agreement about a NWO system which we’ve been moving towards for many decades now, there could still be areas of competition.
    If we look at WWII as the model. US was busying funding and equipping Hitler who could have never done what he did without the help of various US corporations like IBM, Standard Oil, etc. Prescott Bush was funding Hitler through UBS bank in Switzerland. After the war we split the Nazi scientists with Russia and Nazism continued underground and above ground with NASA and CIA. Nazis went to S.America. Their fortunes were hidden and legitimized and the plan which was inspired by the likes of Helena Blavatsky and subsequently Alice Bailey continued on through the formation of the UN. It is hard for most people to fathom the fact that for decades and decades the occultists have envisioned a plan for global government minus religious people etc.
    The part that enters into play here which most of us don’t like to discuss or think about is that it is completely and utterly Satanically inspired and is no more than the tower of Babel being reconstructed again because Satan is not all that original. His plan always was and has been to overthrow God’s Kingdom, which is why Israel will become the target of attack regardless of what one thinks of the government which is not a biblical government. Israel is not operating as a theocracy. It’s impossible right now. The next time it will be a theocracy will be under King Yeshua. Satan hates God’s redemption plan, God’s people and God’s land. By his very nature he will seek to devour and destroy and he will use unsuspecting people and nations to accomplish this. He used the Philistines, the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans etc, etc. Nothing new under the sun.
    There is a prophetic lining up of the nations which will eventually try to destroy Israel politically ( through the UN) physically through war, etc. The reason why this has to be is because it is written. They will do it and God will punish them.
    I actually think Israel is very upset about Russia’s presence on the Golan and Iran’s presence in Syria and Hizb’allah’s presence all with upgraded weapon systems. This makes Russia and China to a lesser degree allies with Israel’s enemies. When I say enemies, I mean biblically as well as politically. We cannot just simply ignore the fact that Iran doesn’t want to see Israel exist as a nation. The problem with Israel’s existence a nation today is that it was established through the UN and therefore has not gained its legitimacy from God himself. God is not stupid and is allowing all of these hostilities to play out in our generation because when the moment is right he is going to say, “No more”. and the nations will know who is the God of Israel. In the meantime as I write, according to friends in the Land the tension is palpable. These are folks that usually don’t complain. The geopolitical situation only complicates what is going on between Fatah, Hamas, and the Israelis and I’m sure there is pressure from the exterior to start a huge uprising.
    If we don’t look at what the nations are doing in terms of biblical prophecy we will miss the mark ( the definition of sin is missing the mark).
    Regardless of anyone’s like or dislike for the current Israeli government and their politics, God says, “it is MY LAND”. God is the one who decides who lives there and how it is divided. He did and will punish Israel for their sins, but at the same time he will also punish the nations who come against her.
    In the interview you quoted Daniel, “the handwriting on the wall”. Yes, US is lacking and while Russia could displace US’ dominant role in the Mediterranean, this does not mean that God is also pleased with Russia. God often uses nations as his instrument of chastisement and then turns and punishes them, therefore I don’t want to say that Russia is only there for righteous motives because they hate terrorism. Russia is pursuing interests but more importantly playing its role on the endtime stage in the Hegelian Dialectic as the new hero while US becomes the new underdog and bad guy. In the meantime all the borders are being destroyed so that people will be so mingled it will be easy to push a one world government with refugees infiltrating all the nations. When the financial system collapses which we are all in agreement on, the so-called enemies will have to cooperate and America’s role greatly diminished as a super-power and this will pave the way for the new Tower of Babel, commonly called the Beast System which will seek to enslave all of us with some diabolic cashless mark, designed to send everyone to hell.
    Sorry to be so long-winded but, I just want to be careful that we don’t over-simplify a situation that is extraordinarily more complex than what we see on the surface.


    • Hello Joyann,
      Thank you for your comment especially this part:

      In the interview you quoted Daniel, “the handwriting on the wall”. Yes, US is lacking and while Russia could displace US’ dominant role in the Mediterranean, this does not mean that God is also pleased with Russia. God often uses nations as his instrument of chastisement and then turns and punishes them, therefore I don’t want to say that Russia is only there for righteous motives because they hate terrorism. Russia is pursuing interests but more importantly playing its role on the endtime stage in the Hegelian Dialectic as the new hero while US becomes the new underdog and bad guy.

      I will post another article soon here at RM tying together dissidents emerging from the U.S. intel community, debates among the Western globalists between neocon/neoliberal hardliners and the so-called ‘realists’ of the Kissinger school (eg The National Interest/Nixon Center, and possibly Edward Luttwak representing Israel’s Mossad realists who deal with Putin) and the East vs. West dialectic ‘W’ has warned us of. Although V often deals with the absurdity of the news and MSM bulls–t propaganda machine with humor, I am sure he also knows God takes no pleasure in the deaths of the wicked jihadists (under Russian bombs and thermobaric rockets).
      As for Isaiah 17, I can only reiterate what V said and declare that the way the Orthodox Christians look at Biblical prophecies including Matthew 24 is completely different from the Evangelical Protestant approach, and I cannot speak as to how Roman Catholic theologians interpret it either. Even though I am aware of many Catholics popular prophetic belief that Russia will lead Europe and the world to repentance after being consecrated to the Mother of God, which has likely been a factor in Papal diplomacy towards the Moscow Patriarchate.
      The first and foremost lense through which the Orthodox deal with prophecy is the teachings of the Church Fathers, which are usually if not wholly absent from modern day Evangelical interpretations, though Luther and Knox were aware of Augustine’s teachings about the Time of the End. This is one reason why, even though ‘Evangelist Anita Fuentes’ and her husband say many intelligent things about the recklessness of American foreign policy confronting Russia, I do not post their videos.
      Russia still also has many social problems — a high divorce rate linked to hypergamy, alcoholism on a per capita scale greater than the U.S. though less ‘hard drug’ use, abortion rates still high though not as horrific as in the late Soviet era, and inadequate philanthropy/noblisse oblige on the part of the rich that compares unfavorably with the rapid progress of the late Tsarist/Nicholas II times before WWI. But as one of the elders’ expression goes, we see other men sinning but not repenting. May the prayers of the Russian Athos, Vasilyevsky Island and Optina elders triumphant and militant bear fruit of repentance and righteousness in the years to come.


      • RUSSIAN:
        С сердцем покаянным,
        С пламенной молитвою
        Припадем к Создателю.
        Боже, храни родную Русь.
        Боже, храни родную Русь.
        Божье Промышление
        Скорби посылает ей
        За грехи сыновнии.
        Боже, спаси родную Русь.
        Боже, прости ее,
        Боже, храни ее.
        Много удел ей дано испытаний,
        Много дано ей еще пережить.
        Дай ободрение, дай упование
        Доблесть и силу ее возродить.
        Боже, храни родную Русь.
        Боже, храни родную Русь.
        ENGLISH (my approximation):
        With penitent heart,
        With fervent prayers
        Falling to the Creator.
        God save native Russia.
        God save native Russia.
        God’s industry
        Sends her sorrow
        For the sins of her children.
        God save native Russia.
        God forgive her,
        God bless her.
        Many tests have been given,
        Much has been given to her still to survive.
        Give encouragement, give hope,
        Courage, and strength to revive her.
        God save native Russia.
        God save native Russia.


  4. Listened to Jame’s interview with V and he said that there may need to be a NATO accident in Afghanistan to hide the real reason (from the Syrian bombing of ISIS by Russia) of bodies going home to loved ones..Then in RTTV news Yesterday
    22:10 GMT
    5 dead, 5 injured in NATO helicopter crash in Afghanistan
    Five soldiers died and another five were injured when a NATO helicopter crashed at a base in the Afghan capital of Kabul. The helicopter “crashed due to a non-hostile incident October 11 at approximately 4:15 pm at Camp Resolute Support, Kabul,” NATO said in a statement. The accident is being investigated. Two of the soldiers killed were British, The Guardian reported.


    • MCrossing — I didn’t say it on the air Friday, but I’ve written in many times in RM articles and comments here. And it would not surprise me if British SAS or MI6 operatives were killed in a Russian air strike on an ISIS or Jubhat al Nusra target — JAN the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda is run out of an Amman ops center, and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan has always had close relations with the British and later the Americans. JAN is using CIA or Saudi supplied TOW missiles against Assad’s armor even as Charles Lister a shill for the Brookings Doha Center (unregistered lobbyist for the Qataris we think is violating law) denies that JAN deliberately received the TOWs instead of taking them from the ‘Free Syrian Army’. The FSA appears to be little more than a press release service and a Western acceptable ‘moderate’ arms conduit/propaganda front for all the jihadist/AlQaeda groups that are actually getting the weapons and have been since the Benghazi attack and before.
      We’ve known for months that the SAS is operating inside Syria, supposedly stalking ISIS or observing them and calling in U.S./UK coalition air strikes on them, but apparently not enough to do any serious damage to the super terrorist group. It’s also possible that SAS who were allegedly stalking ISIS closely did not get the message out in the boonies to get away from the targets and were ‘collateral damage’ from a Russian strike. Hard to say until we get more evidence.
      Based on what I’ve written before about spies killing spies being bad for the spying business, contrary to movie fantasies ala James Bond vs. SMERSH, I do not believe Russia would deliberately target US/UK or even Turkish (NATO member and major Russian trade partner) personnel. The Qatari and Saudi spooks in Syria or organizing TOW deliveries might not enjoy such protection. Neither perhaps do private contractors and assorted Euro mercenaries fighting for Kiev in Donbass/eastern Ukraine (Debaltsevo and U.S. weapons left behind at the Donetsk Airport, anyone?). Agent ‘W’ can probably comment on this in the future, but for now thank God there are no signs the proxy war is about to go hot or become a Spy vs. Spy covert shooting war between Russian and NATO agents and special forces.


  5. James,Okay, now I listened and with regards to your comment on the other post that V addresses Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38-39, here are my thoughts.
    V said that Isaiah 17 and the destruction of Damascus as a city doesn’t relate to this historic time period and that it was “bad exegesis” to say that. I have to post the context of the text to explain why I respectfully disagree with him.
    I will post part of the Chapter:
    Is. 17:1 The oracle concerning Damascus.
    “Behold, Damascus is about to be removed from being a city
    And will become a fallen ruin.
    2 “The cities of aAroer are forsaken;
    They will be for flocks to lie down in,
    And there will be no one to frighten them.
    3 “The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
    And sovereignty from Damascus
    And the remnant of Aram;
    They will be like the glory of the sons of Israel,”
    Declares the LORD of hosts.
    Is. 17:4    Now in that day the glory of Jacob will fade,
    And the fatness of his flesh will become lean.
    5 It will be aeven like the reaper gathering the standing grain,
    As his arm harvests the ears,
    Or it will be like one gleaning ears of grain
    In the bvalley of Rephaim.
    Yet gleanings will be left in it like the shaking of an olive tree,
    Two or three olives on the topmost bough,
    Four or five on the branches of a fruitful tree,
    Declares the LORD, the God of Israel.
    7 In that day man will ahave regard for his Maker
    And his eyes will look to the Holy One of Israel.
    8 He will not have regard for the aaltars, the work of his hands,
    Nor will he look to that which his fingers have made,
    Even the Asherim and incense stands.
    9 In that day their strong cities will be like forsaken places in the forest,
    Or like branches which they abandoned before the sons of Israel;
    And the land will be a desolation.
    10 For you have forgotten the God of your salvation
    And have not remembered the crock of your refuge.
    Therefore you plant delightful plants
    And set them with vine slips of a strange god.
    11 In the day that you plant it you carefully fence it in,
    And in the morning you bring your seed to blossom;
    But the harvest will bbe a heap
    In a day of sickliness and incurable pain.
    We can see from the context the language “Now in that day” which is always a “day of YHVH” expression. This has never happened in known history to Damascus where it ceased to be a kingdom. I don’t know any biblical scholars who think this passage has already happened. You can certainly see in context, that in that day man will look to the Holy One of Israel.
    Also in prophecy there are often double fulfillments of passages that the Prophets 2500 years spoke about. TThis often causes a lot of confusion. An example would be Daniel’s prophecies about Antichous Epiphanes and his prophecies about the anti messiah. As it stands there were many anti messiahs, but there will be one at the end.
    Just want to say, I am not being dogmatic about Damascus becoming a heap of ruins right now, but it seems as though we could be in the period. With so many countries engaged in there, it could set the stage for WWIII. I can’t say that I know this, but I can say I’m watching.


  6. James,
    My next comment which is a reoccurring concern is that the RM authors sometimes make it like Putin is the good guy and we are the bad guys, and I get why. It looks that way when we are funding and equipping the terrorists and Russia is bombing them. My biggest problem with the simplicity of the black and white, good vs bad, moral vs immoral thinking is that there is more going on behind the scenes.
    Alice Bailey spoke of a 3rd WW, so did Albert Pike 33rd freemason which would be a war of religion and “cleanse the planet” in the New Age sense of cleansing, getting rid of the useless eaters. America was set up for this very purpose. Obama seems anointed for the purpose of deliberately and strategically weakening America. Every single thing he does is decisive and destructive and he is clearly not interested in promoting the strength or security of the USA. I would say that Bush set the stage well for him, and so on and so forth if we go back in history.
    America is the sacrificial lamb of the New World Order. The money had to be spread from sea to sea to create the kind of chaos that will occur when the dollar finally does fall apart. Let’s be logical. All of the so-called boogey men worked with the CIA: Osama bin Laden, Sadam Hussein, Qaddafi. Now we are doing the same thing with the offshoot terrorist groups, Al Qeda, Al Nursa Front, ISIS, etc.
    In the Hegelian dialectic the goal always seems to be to distract people with this black and white thinking all while merging the two opposites into one. Obama’s retreat from fighting Iran’s nukes, Syria’s President, Iraq, etc, etc. looks to me like a deliberate strategy of incompetence to further add to the US’s woes.
    All of these countries who have gotten strong and rich, are because the US made sure they did by sending manufacturing overseas, giving away technology etc.
    The immigration crisis of EU and US is all about destroying national sovereignty, the selling out of the net, the plan to remove arms from American citizens, the global warming agenda, the plan to destroy the family, the global education goals to dumb down the younger generations so they believe all the rubbish shoved down their throats, the medicating of the population whether with psychiatric meds and pain killers or legalizing pot, the euthanasia agenda, the abortion agenda and on and on.
    The Alliance of Civilizations which Erdogan was part of was a project in response to Samuel Huntington’s ( CFR) book “The Clash of Civilizations”.
    I just want to be careful about glamorizing regimes that are not exactly “free” either. In China, there are still arrests for people who believe in the Bible except through the organized state church. Russia had its own history of religious persecution and while Orthodox Christianity is kosher there, and there has been more openness in recent years to other faiths it had quite a long history of repression.
    Obama’s statement to so quickly discontinue the ridiculous strategy of equipping moderate Islamists, which is an oxymoron, seemed completely and utterly staged to me. It was like he was saying, “okay Vlad, you want in, I’ll move over ( because I have that flexibility we talked about before the election)”.
    I do not buy the fact that our military is that incompetent. Obama has deliberately and willfully gotten rid of top officials and undermined the military. He does not want a strong USA. This is painfully evident.
    The question is who are his handlers?
    Sorry this is long, but as for Eze 38&39, I will not be dogmatic, but one thing we know for sure based on end-time prophecy Syria and Iran are not Israel’s friend. The identity of Gog and Magog is a bit more elusive though it seems connected to the descendants of Japeth ( Noah’s son).
    Gen. 10:2   The sons of Japheth were Gomer and Magog and Madai and Javan and Tubal and Meshech and Tiras.
    The fact that Russia and China are involved in strengthening Iran is not a good thing biblically speaking.
    To be continued.


  7. James,
    I am neither a Catholic and hardly a Evangelical Protestant and not a typical Messianic Jew either, but I will say with regards to Church Fathers, that this puts tradition over the Word of God. Catholics give their tradition more weight than the Bible, as do traditional Jews in Judaism ( which Yeshua had a big problem with). He said, with your tradition you annul the Word of God.
    In the book of Revelations we are told to neither add nor subtract from the Bible. Tradition in and of it self is not a bad thing as long as we don’t elevate it above the word of God. Yeshua had disciples, and to my knowledge never mentions “Fathers of the Church”. In fact he said, we should call no one Father except our Father in heaven.
    I like what Paul says, that now we see in part. The reason there are so many divisions within the bible-believing community is because it’s hard for people to remove the baggage of history and culture. I think this is common problem for us.
    Russian Orthodox faith I know very little about. In recent years, I try to step back from religion and just focus on the text of Scripture which makes me a bit odd I suppose, but if God left us his Word and Yeshua is the Word become flesh, I do my best to understand and as a result end up not fitting into the neat boxes.
    I am curious as to how you see Damascus will cease to be a city and that the kingdom of Damascus will be removed, has already been fulfilled. I’m also curious to know how you see it fitting in with the passage immediately following “in that Day”.
    Do you think “the church” has replaced Israel. I guess this is important to understand to know where you are coming from. I know Bible discussions tick some people off , but for me it is so clear that we are seeing prophetic end-time passages coming to life.


  8. James,I’ll add one more piece to this. In 325 A.D. approximately, the Roman Emperor Constantine could not defeat the believers who were being martyred for their faith, so he decided if you can’t beat them control them. Reminds me a bit of what Putin has done :o). and all our US Presidents . As Constantine became head of the “Holy Roman Empire” he instituted many anti-Semitic changes, for example the biblical calendar. There was already a growing rift because the Jews who didn’t not believe in Yeshua dug their heals in an wrote down the Talmud to put rabbinic fences around Torah and to cut off Jews who believed in Yeshua even though, in the day there were many who Jews thought was “messiah”. The process of the rift between Jewish believers in Yeshua and Jewish non-belivers happened over a period of years and probably was solidified with the Bar Kochba rebellion in 135 a.d. where a so-called Jewish messiah fought against the Romans and the Jewish believers in Yeshua refused to join them and fled.
    There were many things that caused the separation. The early Gentile believers in Yeshua were already god-fearers and/or Converts ( circumcised). This is a long discussion and requires explanation about the difference between 2nd Temple Judaism and Torah. 2nd Temple had built a wall of separation which did not exist in Solomon’s Temple and is not required by the Torah. God wanted the Gentiles to know him too.
    At the end of time as we know it, I believe the rift will be healed, and just like God is echad ( composite unity) so will those of us who are in Him, Jew, Israelite and Gentile believers alike. The covenant of shalom when we will have his Torah written on our hearts and minds ( Jeremiah 31:31-33) is the better covenant and it’s eternal and in Yeshua’s blood and removes sin, It was always God’s intention to have one called out assembly ( the ekklesia) but man being prone to wander sets up religions. Mohamed built on what the Jews and Christians had in the 600s and after having a “scary vision” in cave, brought the world the Quran. He used to trade with heretic Christians and Jews in Arabia. When the Jewish tribes in Arabia rejected him as one of their prophets, he turned on them and slaughtered them and looted them, gaining all of his followers and riches. His wife and her uncle convinced him that he saw the angel Gabriel.
    God said the text was closed at the book of Revelations, so we know that that was no Angel Gabriel, but there is one that disguises himself as an angel of light. Funny, Constantine claimed to have a vision too that said to go war with the cross. Not exactly the message of Yeshua, I might add. Joseph Smith also received the Mormon’s book by some vision, even though he was a Freemason first.
    When Israel left Egypt ( all the tribes)they left with a mixed multitude who had joined the God of Israel and fled the Egyptians. God said there was one torah for the native born and one for the stranger who dwelt among them.
    In the book of Acts when the disciples came to James and asked what should they do with the Gentile believers who were coming to faith in number, James ( Yacov) said to tell them to abstain from blood, things strangled, sexual immorality and meat sacrificed to idols because Moses was heard every Sabbath in synagogues all over. Another words, the new believers were told to eat kosher, not break the sexual morality laws of Torah, go to the synagogue and listen to the Torah and they would grow. ( the only Bible that existed at that time). The problem is that it became hostile in the synagogues, also Gentiles did not want to be persecuted with Jews by the Romans, so identifying with Jews by observing Sabbath etc, would bring the wrath of the Romans. The non-believing Jews were not always welcoming to believers either, so eventually house assemblies sprung up and the division continued to grow.
    I believe the separation of Jew and Gentile was allowed by God, so that the gospel would spread to all the nations and that also the lost sheep from the Northern Kingdom ( never called Jews) would be gathered.
    All religions formed after the book of Acts look like man’s attempt to systematize God, and to put him into their cultural box. As you point out, even Protestants don’t really go all the way back to the word. They protest some of Catholicism but adopt many of the practices.
    It’s okay, Yeshua will straighten us all out when he reigns from Jerusalem and as Isaiah said, “the Torah will go out from Zion. Right now we all only see in part.
    One thing I do know is that God is a god of shalom which is more than just peace as many think, it is wholeness. God desires shalom for marriage, for people, for nations etc. It’s just that we screw up so badly, so much of the time and Satan is only happy to help with the process.
    This is a bit my perspective and the lens through which I look at history and the Bible. All the systems that have been developed make some attempt at putting God in a box, and I think he is so much bigger than all of our theological boxes.
    Sorry about the length of the post, but just wanted to clarify where I’m coming from a little.


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