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U.S. Threatens Baghdad with Aid Cutoff if it Allows Russians to Bomb Islamic State from Iraq, Kerry and Lavrov to Hold Talks Friday in Vienna

In this photo released by the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu meet with Syrian President Bashir al-Assad in Moscow, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 (Pic taken from
In this photo released by the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu meet with Syrian President Bashir al-Assad in Moscow, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 (Pic taken from

As V said on this week’s Guerrilla Report, major geopolitical events are happening so fast it is difficult to write articles summarizing them. On Wednesday the world was informed Bashir al-Assad had left Syria for the first time since 2011 for a previously unannounced Tuesday meeting with Vladimir Putin at the Kremlin. The same morning, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported it had intercepted communications between fighters of the Islamic State and the Al-Qaeda loyalist Al-Nusra discussing plans to merge their terrorist organizations into a united front against Assad and the Russian air strikes supporting the legitimate Syrian government.

Despite the Al-Nusra front being bloodthirsty, head-chopping and POW executing jihadists with only slightly less spectacular in terms of their beheading film production values than the Islamic State, ‘respected’ global wire service Reuters together with the UK Foreign Office parroting BBC had complained between 80 and 90% of Russian air strikes over the last two weeks had hit Al-Nusra and friends, rather than ISIS.

Like the Syrian Arab Army, Russia’s Information Warfare Keeps Advancing

RT, getting a bit too cheeky for my taste in plugging Putin’s real War on Terror in Syria as opposed to America’s fake war on ISIS…

…on the other hand, this is how you ‘troll’ RT. Bravo. Calling NATO out on their ‘Russian planes operating without transponders’ hypocrisy

The mainstream media has been accusing Russia of targeting the ‘Free Syrian Army’, even though one of the FSA’s biggest neocon boosters Michael D. Weiss recently admitted on camera that the ‘FSA’ doesn’t exist. Or rather, he said the ‘FSA’ is simply a flag of convenience for a multitude of anti-Assad Islamist organizations, though ones he was quick to reassure his Reason mag interviewer were “not the kind of Islamists who would fly planes into the World Trade Center”. Which of course should make any libertarian or otherwise sane reader of Reason feel all warm and fuzzy about America’s mama snackbar screaming jihadi warriors who get off on mass rape and destroying churches

A neocon hack admits the ‘Free Syrian Army’ only existed on Facebook — so why did he ‘report’ from Syria while ’embedded’ with this non-existent ‘army’ in 2013? How did Weiss’ Senate ally Sen. John “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” McCain sneak into Syria for a photo op with this virtual, Facebook-only group? And if McInsane didn’t meet with the ‘FSA’, then who the hell was he meeting in Syria at the U.S. taxpayers’ expense?

If the Russian military SIGINT intercepts are true (and we have little reason to doubt Al-Qaeda 1.0 would gladly merge with Al-Qaeda 2.0) then the mainstream media and Western governments will soon have to come up with a new talking point, instead of the ‘Russia is only bombing U.S.-equipped moderates instead of ISIS’ propaganda line that has prevailed for the last fortnight.

The Michael D. Weiss/Neocon/MSM ‘Russia doesn’t bomb ISIS only our moderate jihadis’ Narrative is Screwed

Similarly, the laughable Daily Beast  neocons’ claims that ‘Russia has become ISIS air force’ because Daesh temporarily seized a couple of villages near Aleppo where the Russians bombed the Al-Nusras or Jaesh al Islam terrorists may have to be abandoned. That the Russians hit ISIS’ ‘capitol’ of Raqqa and also bombed the hell out of ISIS near the Kuweires military airport, in order to help the SAA advance on this key objective, has basically been ignored by the MSM and its usual neocon Russia bashers.

Neocon Michael D. Weiss: “Look, I’m out of solutions here…” you sure are Mikey, you sure are…

We suspect the new party line might involve elaborately pro-Establishment, ‘AlKGBaeda’ theories, perhaps citing the Daily Beast‘s favorite ex-NSA Russophobe John R. Schindler, that the FSB/SVR/GRU’s secret assets inside the Islamic State arranged for the merger with Al-Nusra as part of Moscow’s ‘reflexive control’ toward a ‘bomb em’ all and let Allah sort em’ out’ agenda.

Which in fact, isn’t quite what the Russians are doing, though we don’t doubt for a minute that:

a) the Russian security services and Kadryovsti have their share of assets inside ISIS’ Caucasian fighters, which in part explains Russia’s superb targeting of the Islamic State’s underground caches and command bases while not yet going after the bulk of ISIL’s former Soviet Union (FSU) national recruits

b) Yury Barmin’s statement that an ISIS/alNusra merger makes Russia’s air campaign an even easier ‘sell’ to Westerners if not their ever loyal to the Washington party line EU/NATO politicians. Hey killing Al-Qaeda AND ISIS is two for the price of one to ‘joe and geoff’ six packs from Moscow to Manchester…hell, even retired ex-President, Habitat for Humanity home builder and noted peace negotiator Jimmy Carter is ready to pitch in and help the Russians target these barbarians! That’s how much the whole world hates ISIS and how well Russia is turning the West’s Narrative about the damn-near invincible super terrorist group against it in a massive judo move.

What we see Moscow doing is using force in the classically Clausewitz-ian sense, as a continuation of politics by other means and forcing adversaries to negotiate on Russia and its Syrian client’s terms. But with a Russian-brokered peace in Syria far off, as The Saker reminded his readers Tuesday, a whole lot more bloody hard fighting remains ahead for the Syrian Arab Army (SAA), the Iranians and their Iraqi and Lebanese Hezbollah allies.

John McInsane’s Syrian ‘moderates’ are at it again — this time recruiting kids down to ages 12 and 14 while beheading POWs

Washington Lays Down the Law for Iraq: If You Allow the Russians in to Bomb ISIS We’ll Cut Off All Foreign Aid to Baghdad
This Should Make the Iraqis Very Happy and Now They Will Quietly Obey Whatever the Americans Say (Not)

As the Russia Analyst got into bed before dawn Wednesday Russian and German media reported that the Iraqis had been threatened with a cutoff of American aid if they allowed Russia to bomb the Islamic State from their bases and territory. This would lead RT reporter Murad Gazdiev (a name that sounds quite Caucasian if not Azeri) to tweet that ‘the masks are off’ regarding whether Washington’s highest priority is fighting ISIS, or resisting Moscow’s expanding influence across the Middle East:

Murad was not the only one joining in the general tweet-pile on regarding Washington’s threats against its soon to be former Iraqi allies in the fight against Daesh/Islamic State…

The Iraqis have also noticed that since the establishment of the combined intelligence sharing center in Baghdad with Iraq, Iran and Russia their army and militias have been much more effective against Daesh, taking back one of the most important refinery complexes in the country…

aand here’s the meme that appeared after the first week of Russian bombing reportedly sent several thousand ISIS fighters scurrying for Turkey…

After the sun set Wednesday evening in Washington and a new day was about to dawn in Moscow, AP State Department ace reporter Matthew Lee tweeted that Secretary of State John F. Kerry was flying to Vienna, Austria for urgent talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and the foreign ministers of Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

As Bassem (@BBaseem7) tweeted something indeed seems to be going down between the Russians, the House of Saud, the Turks, and an increasingly desperate-to-save-face Obama Administration.

As the Prussian king Frederick the Great used to say diplomacy without armaments is like music without instruments. If old Friedrich der Grosse were brought back to life today, he’d probably add there’s no diplomats talking without clocks and money transfers ticking in addition to bombs falling. We don’t know whether Webster Griffin Tarpley is right about secret Russian weapons or power-mad moves by Washington’s War Party to prop up the petrodollar at any cost with escalation in defiance of Obama’s orders.

As the Russia Analyst noted in Wednesday’s post, we do see many signs that the hype about Russian casualties and arms supplies to the jihadists is increasing, despite the diplomatic tete a tetes that have so far established rules for Russian and American flyers to avoid collisions or clashes over Syria. Julian Roepcke, the Bild correspondent whose fanatical Russophobia and zeal for the Syrian jihadist cause probably would’ve embarrassed his spiritual forebears at Signal or Völkischer Beobachter, brag-tweeted on Wednesday about nasty surprises awaiting the Russian air force, according to his rebel ‘sources’.

Why the Syria Jihadis’ TOWs Are Potent, but Not Unbeatable ‘Wonder Weapons’

We’ve reported that the Russians have taken precautions against MANPADs through the use of swarming/wingman tactics and deploying large quantities of flares during their low level Hind gunship missions. But it seems Julian has far more faith in jihadists ability to use MANPADs against Russian jets bombing at high speeds or from altitudes at the very edge of any Stinger missile’s range than do the Syrian rebels themselves. The fact is, in any war, weapons and tactics evolve according to the needs of the men fighting it, to the ebb and flow of combat. As we wrote Wednesday just because the neocons believe that jihadi TOW stocks and more importantly, cannon fodder numbers are basically limitless does not make this so. TOW missiles themselves, contrary to their portrayal in rebel media, aren’t American wunderwaffen for which no Russian counter has been developed.

According to Soviet BearRus speaking in the video above, Moscow is sending the Syrians more of its highly modern T-90 as well as older model T-72s equipped with the Shtora-1 defense systems. What these devices do, as the Russian language video demonstrates below, is detonate smoke grenades on the turret of the tank as soon as a TOW or other ATGM’s laser rangefinder is detected, preventing the older model TOWs the Syrian jihadists have from getting a lock.

Even if the gunner precedes to guide the missile to the target manually, the Shtora-1 has two other answers. It can set off grenade charges that blast an incoming missile, so that the TOW gunner has to maintain his lock and let the rocket slow down in an attempt to bypass this defense system (slowing down and then firing a lethal charge is what the Russian Kornet missile does to defeat such systems). Last but not least, the Shtora-1 contains a nasty surprise for any mama snackbaring morons who don’t know about Russian tank turrets having autoloaders — the system can rotate the main gun around within 2 to 3 seconds of ATGM launch detection and fire a 125mm round down the bearing of the attacker to within about 3 degrees of the launcher. Any TOW crew that cannot ‘shoot and scoot’, thereby losing the lock or breaking the wire on the missile will likely get killed or injured without heavy cover from the tank round’s blast.

Washington’s pet Allahu Akbar-ing TOW jihadis get a nasty surprise from a Syrian T-90 tank blasting them within two seconds of launch

The Russians have blown up so much ordinance in just two weeks of bombing at a pace of barely 50 to 60 sorties a day that already, the jihadis are having to move their best TOW gunners and remaining missile stocks around. With Moscow’s plans to increase the number of sorties to up to 300 per day, using the closed Latakia airport as a second air base, the war will shift from a ‘reconnaissance by fire’ to a true massed firepower offensive. It was these plans that we presume were the primary topic of conversation between Bashir al-Assad and Putin Tuesday at the Kremlin. We also believe the diplomatic initiatives the Kremlin would pursue seeking to persuade the Turks and Saudis to cut off aid to their proxies in Syria were also shared with Assad, who in turn can inform the Iranians.

Just How Well or How Badly is the Offensive Going for Assad and the Russians? We’d Say ‘Not Bad’

Blogger Patrick Bahzad, who purports to be a retired U.S. Army officer, sums up the SAA’s offensive after two weeks quite nicely. Suffice to say, despite all the bulls–t and bravado of the pro-TOW jihadi Twitterati, the SAA is grinding down the rebels. Washington, Ankara, Riyadh and Doha’s pet jihadis have totally lost the initiative on the battlefield, which they enjoyed as recently as this summer:

The attritional character of the current ground offensives against entrenched rebel positions, some of whom have been fortified for months and years, is obvious. The unknown factor is the current depletion rate of rebel manpower, ammunition and weaponry, which makes a forecast regarding the length of the current campaign difficult.

However, it looks like the idea of stretching rebel forces thin, forcing them to organise/reorganise defensive lines in areas located wide apart, notably through starting an operation in Aleppo, behind major rebel lines, will take its toll on the logistics and CC capabilites of the rebels.

While news has been publicized about senior Iranian IRGC deaths, it should be noted that the rebels have lost a very significant number of front-line commanders (“Jaish al-Islam” in Damascus, “Jabhat al-Nusra” and “Ahrar al-Sham” in the NW) and that an undetermined number of foreign fighters were killed around Idlib. These kills bear the hallmark of the RuAF strategy, aimed at:

  1. logistical depots and bases of the rebels,
  2. rebel frontline positions (CAS) and
  3. CC facilities and individual commanders.

In this regard, the absence of a unified command structure among the rebel factions might cost them dearly in a not so distant future, as the R+5 seems intent on keeping the momentum and intensifying the operational pace. The number of airstrikes has significantly increased in the last two days and correlating the targets of these strikes with imminence of renewed ground operations suggests that the major axis of R+5 offensives will focus again on the Rastan enclave and a further push into SW Aleppo. The outcome of the relief operation to Kuweires airbase, located East of Aleppo, will also be interesting to follow.

Previously to the push around Aleppo, major combat operations were taking place North of Hama and in Ghab plain. In that regard, there is a big question mark regarding the whereabouts of the several thousand strong Iranian force, most of which has not been seen in large numbers on the battlefield so far.

Quite possibly, there is an ongoing troops buid-up in Latakia province, with the recent attacks on Salma being only a probing a testing phase for a larger engagement which would target the border areas to Turkey and the Jabal al-Akrad in particular.

Unconfirmed info regarding the state of the rebel factions makes for a picture that is consistent with the intended goals of the R+5:

  • TOW teams deployed in Ghab plain were sent back to SW Aleppo to counter advancing government troops. If the rebels are forced to send already committed forces to hot spots of R+5 offensives, this is a rather ominous sign;
  • internal feuds could have erupted within Jaish al-Fath, as one of its most radical components – the Jihadi “Jund al-Aqsa” – stated it was not willing to confront ISIS if called upon to do so. According to unverified sources, the predominantly Moroccan and North African “Jund al-Aqsa” got into firefights with “Ahrar al-Sham” groups in at least one location under their control.

Based on Bahzad and Southfront’s descriptions, what the SAA, Hezbollah and Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Shi’a militia allies have been doing thus far is clearing out threats to the logistical ‘spine’ of the country. It was the risk that Assad’s enemies could cut the vital highway between the capitol Damascus and the regime’s coastal stronghold in Latakia province where Russian bases can operate safely that prompted Putin’s intervention. Now the SAA is effectively encircling the remaining rebel pockets around Homs, as well as the countryside outside Hama.

The Syrians have also beaten the jihadists back from the Damascus eastern outskirts territory of East Ghouta and made significant progress in the south pushing the enemy towards the Israeli-held Golan Heights, this time without any interference from the Israelis due to the Russian Bear dominating the skies. As we’ve argued in this space before, if neither Israeli nor Turkish pilots will risk their necks to establish a ‘safe zone’ or ‘no fly zone’ over ‘America’s’ rebels, why should the United States military? Unless of course, you happen to be crazy-eyed, like John McCain or Hillary Clinton:

That SAA progress has been at some places slow, particularly in Damascus’ suburbs urban terrain or in areas where the Russian air strikes need to be called in to remove the jihadists from the high ground, is an unavoidable fact. The Saker is not wrong to preach caution and to admonish his readers not to get triumphalist about the Russian intervention. The SAA has suffered severe casualties and poor coordination between air power and frontline commanders for many months now. The Iranians troop levels have not been as large as some anticipated at the start of the Russian air campaign, but we believe the Persians are holding their best troops in reserve for a major breakthrough this winter after the jihadists have been ‘softened up’.

When Will the Dragon Join in the Anti-ISIS Offensive? What Are the Chinese Waiting For?

Putin and his allies have several more ‘cards’ up their sleeves besides what we’ve seen thus far from the air and cruise missile strikes by the Russians. Namely, an Iranian pincer move with the Persians IRGC joining Hezbollah and Iraqi militias in the encirclement of the rebel stronghold Aleppo, simultaneous with a Houthi/Yemeni army offensive against the Saudi-led coalition occupying their country. There is simply no way in our minds, a commander as devious and feared by the Americans as Gen. Qasem Soleimani would be making such a spectacle of himself taking selfies with his men near the frontlines in Aleppo if he were not seeking to distract Saudi, Israeli and U.S. intelligence from another move on the chessboard. We believe this move will be a Houthi/Yemeni ‘Tet’ style offensive that will inflict painful losses on the Saudis. The other factor in the combined Syria/Iraq theater is the one we mentioned above: Washington’s pressure on the Iraqis to not allow the Russians into their bases could backfire. Because instead of getting Russian planes flying into Iraq to bomb the Islamic State, we expect another player to emerge: China.

Coming to a Daesh front line near you in Anbar province?

The Chinese have modernized versions of Russia’s Tupolev-16 long range bomber, the H-6K. These versions carry cruise missiles as well as ‘dumb’ bombs that can be used in multiple-hour long loiter missions, not unlike how we saw Diego Garcia-based B-52s fly in November 2001 to blast Taliban lines in Afghanistan. With the Islamic State reeling from the loss of the Basji oil refinery complex and additional hammer blows from the Shi’a led Iraqi Army and militias, we could see a delineation or division of labor between the Russians and Chinese.

In this scenario, Russia will step up its air strikes in Syria using the expanded Latakia airport base and the additional runway/s there, while China’s long range aviation operates out of bases in Iran to hit Daesh targets in western Iraq. None other than SouthFront, one of our premier sources for accurate and timely info on the conflict, has stated that China may be eyeing bases in Iran in order to strike ISIS targets in Iraq. The security issues and risk of suicide bomb attacks that plagued the U.S. when it came to air operations at Balad or other Air Force bases in Iraq would certainly be insignificant by comparison in Iran’s Persian heartland. The last thing Russian or Chinese generals in charge of their nation’s long range bombers want to worry about on their first joint, SCO expeditionary mission is suicide-vest equipped jihadists with satellite maps provided by You Know Who (Langley) crawling under their wire and setting off bombs within their perimeter.

Chinese J-11 license built versions of Russia’s Sukhoi 27 multirole fighter, which has the range to strike targets in western Iraq from Iran

In this way, Moscow can increase the pressure on Daesh, and China will ‘punk’ Washington at the very moment the Obama Administration is trying to ‘look tough’ over Beijing’s artificial South China Sea island bases. The Iranians could also cement their place in the new Shanghai Cooperation Organization led order by hosting long range Chinese and possibly Russian aviation to act as a ‘force multiplier’ for the shared Russian-Iranian-Iraqi intelligence command center in Baghdad.

The only reasons we can think of why China stays aloof from the anti-Daesh air campaign thus far is because it’s been:

a) waiting to see how far the US Navy intends to push to within the 12 mile exclusion zones around Fiery Cross reef and other Spratly Islands bases

b) waiting on the Iranian ground offensive to start and force ISIS to pull more troops off the Anbar province front so a rapid, prestige enhancing breakthrough can be achieved for the Iraqis with the help of Chinese bombs raining down on ISIS exposed in the open desert

c) evaluating using its own satellites and intelligence sources in the Mideast particularly in Baghdad where it has major oil interests how successful the Russian campaign has been

d) finalizing secret and not so secret arms sale and energy concession agreements with the Iraqi government, which will likely include more armed Chinese-manufactured drones patrolling Iraqi skies

The Diplomatic Dance: Moscow Rules for Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the Americans
Just How Badly Are the Saudis Doing? And Will They Negotiate in Good Faith or Be Forced To by the Oil/Proxy War Pincers?

The coming weeks will be critical and may decide whether the Russians will succeed in a military and diplomatic masterstroke, or get bogged down by the fanatical resistance of the jihadists in Syria and the stubborn refusal of Washington, Riyadh, Doha and Ankara to accept a face-saving peace that will in fact represent a defeat. The infighting in the House of Saud exposed by the anonymous prince letter and the war in Yemen is forcing the previously intransigent Saudis to negotiate with Putin. So too, is the alarming decline in Saudi market share in the world’s biggest oil importer, China, which seems to have deliberately favored the petro-yuan paying Russians and Iranians over the Gulf States still stuck on the petrodollar. Today Moscow exports more crude to China than Saudi Arabia. If you add in Persian crude, it isn’t even close. Presumably this is what EVOLUTION Consulting meant by the BRICS capacity to absorb market share and to do it on a more long term basis than the Western petrodollar dependent powers. Nonetheless, that the 30-year-old Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman negotiating with Putin is also the Kingdom’s defense minister nominally responsible for the debacle in Yemen demonstrates the complexity of this diplomatic dance.

The Turks too, are in a world of hurt as their economy and currency the lira suffer. The November 1 elections could prove embarrassing to Erdogan’s ruling Law and Justice Party (AKP), forcing him to share power with some sort of opposition bloc. The vote is expected to force a shift towards negotiations with the Kurds, something Washington already demands of Ankara as a de facto if not de jure Kurdistan may prove to be the only remaining piece of the Iraq and Syria puzzle left for the Americans to ‘salvage’. In the worst case scenario from Washington’s point of view, the nearly landlocked Kurds (except for whatever territory they end up grabbing adjoining Assad’s coastal Latakia province near the Turkish border) may be the only ‘friend’ they will have left when Putin is done smacking the Turks and Saudis into compliance with the new Eurasian order in the Mideast.

The terror attack recently carried out against an anti-war, pro-peace with the Kurds student rally in the Turkish capitol of Ankara was a message from ISIS not to betray them, according to Southfront. But the flow of Daesh contraband crude to Turkish middlemen is now acknowledged by none other than Establishment Pentagon journalist Bill Gertz, who lists the Islamic State’s annual revenues at an astounding billion bucks. As we predicted back in August, the Turks are the perfect ‘fall guys’ to explain away the spectacular rise of the Islamic State, and all the long Toyota pickup truck convoy signs of ISIL’s state sponsorship.

30 thoughts on “U.S. Threatens Baghdad with Aid Cutoff if it Allows Russians to Bomb Islamic State from Iraq, Kerry and Lavrov to Hold Talks Friday in Vienna Leave a comment

  1. “Washington Lays Down the Law for Iraq: If You Allow the Russians in to Bomb ISIS We’ll Cut Off All Foreign Aid to Baghdad”
    You mean this kind of Foreign Aid, in the form of AIDS and Fail (US job):
    Mo@Mo_Gains: “as if the Americans will still be needed when Russia starts helping Iraq. Hahahaha”
    “Washington’s pet Allahu Akbar-ing TOW jihadis get a nasty surprise from a Syrian T-90 tank blasting them within two seconds of launch”
    ‘When a Fail is epic enough, in rare cases, it may become a Win.’ – Encyclopedia Dramatica
    Also turns out the New Silk Road on ChannelNews Asia is a multi-part series. The latest (October 21st 2015 8pm (GMT +8) focused on Khazakhstan’s Kyzylorda Region (near to the Baikonur Cosmodrome and both located near the New Silk Road paved super highway) that is supplying at least 80% of its oil production to China, at higher oil prices than the international pricing despite falling oil prices.
    The oil drilling initiative in that region is joint China and Khazakhstan owned.


  2. I am surprised more tanks do not use autoloaders or it took this long for a tank to have an automated turret with crew shifted down to the hull as with the Armata.
    The rapid response to the TOW missile within 3 seconds of firing shows the rules of armor engagement have changed and the advances in technology to enable the turret to slew in a short time have turned tanks into almost living, 50 ton predators. The problems of getting stuck in a narrow street and bad terrain still apply.


  3. Get bogged down, and ultimately in a defeat…..hmmm appears to me the defeat has happened to the biggest players in the game of “oil for petro-dollars”….

    So too, is the alarming decline in Saudi market share in the world’s biggest oil importer, China, which seems to have deliberately favored the petro-yuan paying Russians and Iranians over the Gulf States still stuck on the petrodollar. Today Moscow exports more crude to China than Saudi Arabia. If you add in Persian crude, it isn’t even close.

    Unless Zero & the western elites are way way sharper than I give them credit for, the “money talks & ‘bs’ walks” line has already pointed to the victors in this case. From my perch it is about the business as usual. Based on all the reporting I am seeing, I would feel safe exposing some betting hard assets in favor of a “USSA & puppets defeat”.
    Great dizzying array of reports partner.
    Wolf Gray


      • “Jewish Israeli shot dead by security guard after being mistaken for Terrorist”. Finger waving belligerent “Chosen People” and Talmudic Terrorist turn on each other due to frenzied Nutsnyoyoism. ROFLMAO Nuclear Duck. Quack. There must be a Fairy God mother out there 🙂 If he were Palestinian there would be ZERO Western MSM coverage. Only Non-Jews can be called Terrorist. No tears for the Goy.


      • James,
        If what the Talmudic Zionist Jews say about the Holocaust is true, then why is it ILLEGAL in many countries to question this? Just a simple non-trick question. There is NO such preference given to any other belief.
        The Light of Truth never needs to hide in the Darkness of Lies.
        We’ve had this discussion before where I presented independent investigators who wished to prove/disprove this ingrained story. Please review those.


      • SJ: Well your point is moot to me, because I think Holocaust denial laws are stupid and counter productive, making martyrs out of people who don’t deserve it.
        Just like it’s BS to pass a law banning people from saying the moon is made of green cheese. It happened, but there’s no sense in calling someone like The Saker a Nazi if they think ‘only’ 4 1/2 or 5 million died instead of some number like 6 million. People offer estimates for Stalin’s purges and the Holomodor in Ukraine all the time that if they’d actually happened at that number would leave the present day populations of Russia or Ukraine half of what they are.
        But to the substance of your point, historical reality exists, things happened, irrespective of how they get twisted, used or abused by the likes of Bibi or Porky in the present day. There is a God, and the historic facts conveyed in the Bible including about the ancient Hebrews are true, irrespective of what you think of them or how you choose to respond. The link between ancient Israel and modern Israelis though is a whole other subject, which we’ve commented on in previous lengthy discussions here with Joyann et al. Those who recall that discourse know I am not a believer in either the ‘Khazarian’ hypothesis seeking to deny any Jewish connection to the Holy Land nor the modern Zionists insistence that a bunch of Europeans/Slavs and a few Sephardim who are Jewish by ethnicity more than religion have an irrevocable claim to a certain piece of real estate.
        As the Persians and old man Assad who protected synagogues in their capitols and were always fond of showing these places to foreign delegations insisted, Judaism is a religion. Modern as opposed to Biblical Zionism (which entailed the Temple sacrifices we believe were superceded by Christ, otherwise we would not be Orthodox Christian but like the ‘foolish Galatians’) is an ideology, not terribly different save for the Biblical antecedents and importance of the location to world religions than say, Ukrainian nationalism, which is also of mid to late 19th century vintage. Modern Israel is of course, a much more successful nation state than Ukraine but considering the levels of aid both nations have received I’d have to say even this Kiev regime might have managed not to steal every dime of the $100 billion plus Israel has received in either economic or military aid from the United States since its founding. I would also say in fairness to Herzl and the other 19th century Zionists that they were much more ‘we’ll help the Arabs by raising their level of development with our European brains and techologies’ than some of their successors in the Irgun who adopted the more ‘they’re Amalek, drive them out’ chauvinistic if not democidal view. Ukraine-ness by contrast has always been more weak in its positive as opposed to ‘NOT Russian’ concept of itself than say, Polish or Hungarian identities.
        Once again, before Joyann comments or get myself in any more trouble, I do not deny a Jewish connection to Jerusalem stretching back 3,000 years, nor that the Temple Mount or somewhere thereabouts was the site of Herod if not Solomon’s temple. Unlike the Palestinian propagandists I don’t see any sense in denying the existence of an ancient Hebrew commonwealth or collection of tribes ruling that territory in various stages of expansion and losses over many centuries. To do so as the PLO tried to do is of course to deny the truth of archaeology and the Bible both Old AND New Testaments, since Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, not just Roman Palestine.
        But with all that said, think about what would happen in the modern world if all ancient titles to real estate where restored on the basis of descendants? Do the Greeks at the very least get back Constantinople, lost in 1453? How about the entire west/northern coast of Turkey which their ancestors occupied in Homeric times? Maybe the Russians could throw in Sevastapol too since that was the site of an ancient Greek colony known to Homer’s people and the Byzantine Empire’s trading posts with the Biblical Scythians? What would the ‘Crimea is Ukraine’ even though nobody among the victorious Allied leaders meeting with Stalin considered it such at Yalta in 1945 think of giving Golden Dawn or Syriza party members a temenos of land each on the peninsula?
        Do Irish Celts get to come back to Cappodocia and further south to northern Latakia in today’s Syria because that’s where the Celtic Galatians who received St. Paul’s letter and the church of Laodecia in Revelation were? Do you know that the blood descendants of those Galatians are probably Allawites and Christians in the refugee camps Russian jets fly over today?
        And what about claims to North America based on ‘who was here first’, since we know there were successive rather than single waves of migrants coming across the Bering Strait even after it iced over and many ancient visitors to the Americas came from China as well as Europe and possibly ancient Phoenicia/Egypt?
        You see my point?


      • 7Man: Yes I realized that while The Daily (Mark of the) Beast‘s Pentagon ‘sources’ talk up how Assad isn’t making any progress, the Russian bombing is inept and kills lots of civilians etc the U.S. actions of blowing up a power plant in Aleppo or what you described tell a different story. They are scorching the earth which is what enemies do when they’re in RETREAT, not when they’re winning. They are still panicked about the Iraqis inviting in the Russians not so much due to Moscow being able to raise the sortie rate but because ISIS will be caught in a pincer move and there will be no way to resupply them without getting ‘caught’ as the Iraqis have already found multiple paradrops for the black flag waving demon-beards. Reading between the lines of Putin’s #Valdai2015 speech he stopped just short of accusing the U.S. of supporting Al-Nusra if not ISIS and directly stated they care far more about removing Assad than fighting terror. The Russian Defense Ministry’s Facebook page response to DoD spokesman Col. Steve Warren (USAF) drips with sarcasm about the pathetic results of 7,000 U.S. sorties over 15 months versus 1,000 Russian sorties in 2 1/2 almost 3 weeks:
        Also as I wrote in this piece the big nasty surprise coming for the Pentagon/Langley boys is going to be Chinese bombing ISIS from Iranian bases. Besides the Persians sending two crack brigades that the Qatari and Saudi punks aren’t expecting once the SAA secure Kuweires military airport I think Putin knows the fire breathing Dragon’s bombers are on their way soon as well. After all if the Iraqis are going to hold a parliamentary vote on inviting the Russians to bomb Daesh, why not invite the Chinese while they’re at it? Then The Donald can mope some more about how ‘Putin and the Chinese are grabbing the oil, what are we getting out of toppling Saddam and Gaddafi?”
        I also think Putin’s end game could involve an Egyptian (read: Sunni) peacekeeping force to tell the Syrian Sunnis they are not going to be mercilessly slaughtered in reprisal for many supporting the terrorists/jihadists these last four years. Assad’s flight to Moscow and the hint he would step down for the good of the country — but only in favor of a government elected representing the Damascus-controlled majority of the population — is part of Putin’s diplomatic end game. But first unfortunately he has to thoroughly humiliate the Sauds and Qataris into submission.


      • James,
        Since you have high esteem for Joaquin Flores, then hear in his own careful words ( he’s probably afraid to get Mel Gibsoned ) about the Holocaust debate:


      • Mytle0: “In conversations with James, the Russian analyst, he and I concur that the world is going to soon share the ‘Russian experience’, i.e. general global collapse. This is driven by the demographic collapse in birthrates globally, high debt levels everywhere including China (ghost cities built on debt), and automation. Basically, the whole world is going to be in some kind of ‘creative destruction’ cycle, more severe in some places than others.” – MLYTLE0″ I just wanted to add to this accurate summation of my macro economic view point that in some places I expect the collapse to be less severe, because it will have already occurred, unlike in the ‘first world’ nations of the U.S., Canada, Australia, UK, Germany, Sweden etc.
        These nations are: Russia in the 1990s (if Moscow can diversify out of dollar and shift world trade East it may come out with less than a full blown Depression once its trade partners in the EUSSR collapse around 2020-2023), Argentina in the early 2000s, Greece in the late 2000s-2010s, and probably the Balkans bottoming out soon with Ukraine having a few more years of Depression to go depending on how quickly the Kiev regime is overthrown and normal trade with Russia can be restored. Clearly some countries will also be better insulated geographically from the chaos — think Chile, New Zealand, Switzerland, Norway, and of course Iceland as the ‘safe havens’ albiet these will be ‘lifeboat’ countries already ‘full’ of productive Galts Gulch and mid-level globalist ‘refugees’. Having huge lands that ‘refugees’ could ‘resettle’ in the form of Siberian homesteaders, major military power, and potent IT/nanotech/space technologies should help the Russians whether the storm better than any other big country — including Germany and China.
        Other nations may be prone to either reup/be reabsorbed by powerful neighbors (Belarus with Russia, Moldova with Romania if Bucharest and Moscow reach a ‘deal’ on Transnistria after the Kiev regime collapses). We could see crazy old George Friedman of Stratfor’s predictions come true as mid-level regional powers assert themselves — at least two of the four he named in Japan, and Poland, but not Turkey (in dire economic straits unless it fully commits to the New Silk Road and restoring relations with all) or Mexico. I think hundreds of thousand to low millions of productive mostly European and Asian origin Americans will emigrate to Latin America, as the ‘carrying capacity’ of the big and mid-size countries like Colombia, Ecuador and Argentina has hardly been reached, and Spanish is a lower language barrier to entry the average American than say, Japanese, German, Norwegian, or Russian!


      • James,
        Last one for today re Holocaust.
        Gobs of evidence. The videos are at the bottom. Above the videos are Auschwitz plaques ( 1948, 1989 ) and old news clippings. Please make note of the adjusted numbers. The number “6” is a Talmudic voodoo number. For whatever reason, they believe if repeated often enough they gain some kind of Supernatural protection. This is why “6” has been repeated for over a century by the International Jewry.
        Regardless of size and/or duration a lie is a lie is a lie. No revisionist history and/or destruction of counter evidence can change that fact. Hence my usage of “Holohoax”.


  4. From Jim Stone of
    “Can EMP fry the U.S.?
    Mike wrote:
    In the event of WWIII, most assume it would go nuclear with devastating consequences. However, since the objective is a one world government nuking the planet doesn’t seem to be a desirable option. I have heard that there are EMP type weapons of great power which if detonated at an altitude of about 20 miles above the USA would completely fry the electrical power grid – i.e. no electricity for the entire country. In addition, they would completely fry the electronics of cars, cell phones, you name it. Therefore, with no operating vehicles, fixing the power grid would be almost impossible. Nothing could get done anywhere. People would soon starve, but their deaths would not really contaminate the planet like nuclear weapons. If the elite had a place and provisions to weather the storm, they could come out later and rebuild their new world. This could be done not only to the US, but also to Russia, China or anywhere else they wanted a drastic population reduction.
    The question: is this scenario even feasible, or just internet nonsense? What do you think?
    Jim Stone: EMP will not do anything of significance to modern electronics. I have been over this many times before. The only thing EMP might do to America is trip the power grid out, with a few repairs needed in a few areas, and a long re-start time.
    Computer networks that use long runs of copper wire (not fiber optic, which is the norm now) I mean old systems that still use cat 5, phone systems that still use copper wire, will likely see damage and go down if the attack is strong enough.
    A broad region EMP can’t fry a laptop or any other small electronic device, let alone the circuits in a car for several very good reasons. In order:
    1. The cross section is too small for any long range EMP to interact with. If an EMP is going to travel for long distances, it has to be a low frequency. And low frequencies do not like to couple with small objects. High frequency EMP bursts cannot travel through the air very far, because air has water vapor which soaks up high frequencies. The maximum damaging range ever achieved with a high frequency EMP is a radius of 2 miles in perfectly clear dry weather. This is with a top of the line coil type EMP weapon with explosive detonator. In some instances, even this top of the line type of EMP weapon has a range limited to a few hundred yards, (when it is raining) because water affects them so much.
    2. If you ever wondered why high frequency “ray” type weapons have such a limited range, never working in a way that will destroy anything at distances over a mile, water vapor in the air is the biggest reason why. Since it takes a high frequency to drive energy into the circuits of a cell phone, Ipad, or even a car because all the wires are short in length, there will be no legitimate EMP type destruction of these types of items over broad regions simply because it is not technically possible to accomplish.
    3. Low frequency EMP of the type that can toast the power grid is technically possible to accomplish but very unlikely to ever be successful because the system is too well protected by circuit breakers, and if anything does blow it will most likely be easily replaced transformers. The spare transformers that are sitting around most electrical yards won’t get blown by any low frequency EMP because their coils sit inside steel cabinets, which are perfect faraday cages. The only way a surge of power can hit a transformer from an EMP is if the surge gets induced into the electrical lines feeding into and from the transformer. And even at that, the weakest transformer will blow first, and once it provides a path to ground none of the other transformers on the line are likely to blow. So the way I see a well implemented EMP attack on America playing out will be this:
    Power goes out everywhere, because circuit breakers trip. Several large generators explode at power stations, but it is only a percentage, (less than 10 percent, probably more like 2 or 3 percent. Practically everyone in the country will see the sky light up from an exploding transformer somewhere, but it will only be one of hundreds in the area. Lights will be out for quite a while, but after a few days they will be mostly back on.
    But there is a real EMP “threat” for all cars, Iphones, tablets, computers, etc and this “threat” will be the cell phone system, which can fake an EMP blackout of everything by commanding suicide circuits in many devices to activate and destroy the device, and by telling the ECU’s in the cars to fake the car being dead.
    There will be no legitimate EMP destruction of these devices, but with all the hoaxing and technical illiteracy going on with the “EMP scare crowd”, everyone will believe EMP wiped the country out because the primary reason will be ignored – remote deactivation and destruction of electronics via command, issued by the cell phone system.”


    • SOF: nice to see some antidote to the ‘EMP = we’re all gonna die’ story in alt-media. OTOH a lot of people would still die due to any extended power outage from no refrigeration of medicines or dialysis.
      “there is a real EMP “threat” for all cars, Iphones, tablets, computers, etc and this “threat” will be the cell phone system, which can fake an EMP blackout of everything by commanding suicide circuits in many devices to activate and destroy the device, and by telling the ECU’s in the cars to fake the car being dead.” If such an ‘off/suicide’ switch does exist in so many electronics including presumably military devices not otherwise designed it would explain the anonymous Russian officer ‘XYZ’ boasting that they can not only shut down Ukrainian SAMs of Soviet/Russian older design, but also prevent ATGMs/MANPADs from even being able to fire from their launch tubes.
      Ft Russ re-ran the ‘XYZ’ piece from January 2015 a couple days ago, perhaps because Thierry Meyssan mentioned on Tarpley’s 10-17-15 World Crisis Radio show around the 26-27:00 mark (according to @ThornyBastard1) that the Russians were jamming/blinding everything NATO had within 300 km of their Latakia air base. How they would do that from a land based platform and how the frequency bands would not interfere with Ru mil operations and radios is an interesting question. Again my own marks in HS/college physics were not good dealing with relativity, much less Tesla theories or zero point energy.
      As I wrote back on August 10, 2015 I am skeptical about the USS Donald Cook ‘sea story’ yet I do not rule out the possibility the jamming pod on a Su-24 story was a cover for some sort of land-based electronic warfare system on the Crimea shore ‘zapping’ DDG-75:
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      • I have felt there was an insidious agenda at work as they pile on one smartphone after another with ‘newfangled’ lights and games and make it like its the greatest thing and all the idiots rush to acquire the latest smartphone. When the suicide switch activates it, those addicted to their phones will become mentally unstable and add to the predicted high death count post-financial reset.
        One of the psychopath’s favorite games is to give something to someone that they will like, then take it away to relive that rush of adrenaline when they took candy from a baby as kids. That rush of adrenaline is how they get that uncontrollable smirk on their face from their nerves twitching.
        Its been a long while since Webster Tarpley left the infowars scene. I missed his sharp analysis and his courage to go near the battle front. Problem is my current focus is on what is happening to Silver pricing (as my investment depends on it) and limited time to research this information means I focus on Team RM.
        With the jamming of NATO devices within 300km of Latakia air base shows that Russia has yet again deployed a weapon that is ahead of what NATO is capable of having and has shown that Russia has the capability to dominate the battlefield. Forget any notions of western military superiority.
        The exact timing of the point where he said about this new jamming device is at 28:40 that has jammed ‘all communication in Syria, radar, satellites, etc, the result is NATO doesn’t know what is happening in Syria in the last 3 weeks’.


      • SOF,
        I seen groups of young kids sitting at a Starbucks table texting each other here in the USSA on numerous occasions. Verbiage not required. These “Textaholics” with Common Core math skills and Kardashian Worship will go through Crack withdrawals when the lights go out and venture into Freak Out Twilight Zone Spasms. Yes. They are the future of Amerika. Currently ranked 27th and sliding in world math and science skills. But. But. The new IWatch is here.


    • SJ: McInsane infamously said Russia was a gas station masquerading as a country. He would’ve been more accurate to say Qatari is an LNG terminal and Al-Jazeera TV studio posing as a military power. Sure they’ve got an air force with some F-16s and probably some missiles the U.S. sold them, but they aren’t going to take on the Russians, except with more TOW missile yo mama snackbar-ing videos and BrookingsDoha/Sunnistan shills on Twitter.


  5. I know this is a little off topic (well, actually, a lot), but James, have you seen this link I posted over on one of ‘V’s threads:
    It COULD be a Halloween prank, but I checked out the posting on the comments section of thehill.(com) and it was put out there multiple times for emphasis.
    I thought V might comment on it, but I think you could do a good evaluation also. It reads like one ‘really torqued off’ spook is outing the cover on some of the drug network in the CIA, which of course, results in some deaths, and the implication this somehow endangers some of the big politicos in D.C., people that we see in the news quite frequently.
    This guy mentions Harry Reid’s eye injury from some months back, infers it was some kind of payback (which I thought it was at the time too, in fact, because the gym accident story was so lame) and by extension other big names in the D.C. area could have accidents.
    Then again, it could all be fake..


    • Mlytle0 — my first thought reading that was either kompromat or disinformatziya, with SVR/GRU playing some mind games on their counterparts at Langley and DIA. But I could be wrong. Ex-NSA greater Galicia diaper baby @20Committee John R. Schindler likes to label anything that implicates the U.S. intel community or government into sponsoring terrorism, drugs or other dirty activities as Kremlin agitprop aka active measures. Too bad for him it ain’t all false, a lot of it is true. Which he himself, being a somewhat former critic of the Balkan wars he partially saw firsthand as an NSA counterintel officer (whose apparent area of expertise was not so much preventing Russian eavesdropping on NATO militaries in Bosnia/Kosovo as counterpropaganda, judging by his CV and lack of ELINT/EWO on it).
      Schindler knows damn well the KLA were terrorists who killed not only Serb security forces but also civilians to provoke Milosevic’s crackdown prior to the 1999 NATO air campaign, and he knows that the Kosovar Albanian mafia the U.S. installed are up to their eyeballs in narcotics, white women sex trafficking, and the supposed urban legend organs trade. OTOH I shouldn’t be so hard on Schindler perhaps — now that he’s been fired by USNWC for running an NSA propaganda op on DoD time and dime against Agency critics in Congress and getting pics of his junk spread all over the web by a vengeful groupie he wanted to bang, Russia-bashing for DailyBeast/BizInsider and alKGBaeda theories are his only meal ticket if sugar mama wife has cut him off.


      • I was intrigued by all the references to Mexico City, as I have somewhere a link to a CFR article detailing all of the drug routes used by the various cartels coming into the U.S., and a whole bunch did in fact go through Mexico City. I also found it credible about the Bush family involvement, as it’s stated all over the place on the web about ‘poppy’ Bush. But an intelligent prankster could assemble these same references in this same way, so I guess it goes in the ‘unresolvable’ bucket.


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